Comments on: Whose Fish? (logic puzzle) http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/ .com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jazz http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-235049 Jazz Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:21:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-235049 great job! well done. puzzles need patience and hard work! great job! well done. puzzles need patience and hard work!

]]> By: wilhelm z. http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-235036 wilhelm z. Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:21:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-235036 I used the same solution, but made it on a worksheet which I think made it easier, I started by organizing the ¨definitive data¨ (yellow) and then the ¨relative data¨ (orange), and then the remaining data filled the gaps. It took me about half an hour with this worksheet and it was very fun!  I used the same solution, but made it on a worksheet which I think made it easier, I started by organizing the ¨definitive data¨ (yellow) and then the ¨relative data¨ (orange), and then the remaining data filled the gaps. It took me about half an hour with this worksheet and it was very fun! 

]]> By: Nehasuper13 http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-235034 Nehasuper13 Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:39:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-235034 I'm thirteen and I got it too! Nice work :) I’m thirteen and I got it too! Nice work :)

]]> By: Rob http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-234952 Rob Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:01:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-234952 Guys, I must agree with much that you say and I have no doubt that you are all extremely smart - far smarter than me.  Yes, the puzzle is logicallly flawed since the Pike is not included as a variable within the 'pet' data type (which renders the puzzle insoluble) - but you appear to be looking at this incorrectly.  Yes, it is a data relationship puzzle but it is also a data hierarchical puzzle and until this is recognised it cannot be solved (or notionally solved, as is the case here).  It is only when you establish that that the house is at the top of the hierarchy that you can commence to solve it.  It is as well therefore to understand the principles of those that went before you and understand that hierarchy has an essential place in the relationships of data. Regards Old Hand    Guys, I must agree with much that you say and I have no doubt that you are all extremely smart – far smarter than me.  Yes, the puzzle is logicallly flawed since the Pike is not included as a variable within the ‘pet’ data type (which renders the puzzle insoluble) – but you appear to be looking at this incorrectly.  Yes, it is a data relationship puzzle but it is also a data hierarchical puzzle and until this is recognised it cannot be solved (or notionally solved, as is the case here).  It is only when you establish that that the house is at the top of the hierarchy that you can commence to solve it.  It is as well therefore to understand the principles of those that went before you and understand that hierarchy has an essential place in the relationships of data.

Regards
Old Hand   

]]> By: Matthew Shinkle http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-234942 Matthew Shinkle Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:12:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-234942 I disagree that that is a true answer.  I see your point, but assumptions must be made in any situation.  Nearly any logic puzzle can be picked apart if you try hard enough.  Take the information "The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water." for example.  You could reason "perhaps this neighbor is across the street, and is therefore not part of the whole situation."  This would entirely mess up the problem.  I don't know if this was the intended answer, but a problem should not be thought of as a problem of "cheating the system" per se, but a problem of figuring out the puzzle with the information you are given. P.S. You mentioned your IQ to back it up.  I've always been curious about them and am really wondering what yours is. I disagree that that is a true answer.  I see your point, but assumptions must be made in any situation.  Nearly any logic puzzle can be picked apart if you try hard enough.  Take the information “The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water.” for example.  You could reason “perhaps this neighbor is across the street, and is therefore not part of the whole situation.”  This would entirely mess up the problem.  I don’t know if this was the intended answer, but a problem should not be thought of as a problem of “cheating the system” per se, but a problem of figuring out the puzzle with the information you are given.
P.S. You mentioned your IQ to back it up.  I’ve always been curious about them and am really wondering what yours is.

]]> By: Roocusroidy http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-234630 Roocusroidy Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:45:00 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-234630 Your ASSUMING the reason 98% of people can't solve it is due to IQ deficiency. Maybe the Intended answer was to make you think about the reality of the situation in the world population. 98% of people in the world are not educated to the level to perform basic algebra! Self serving Logic puzzle...or is it? Your ASSUMING the reason 98% of people can’t solve it is due to IQ deficiency. Maybe the Intended answer was to make you think about the reality of the situation in the world population. 98% of people in the world are not educated to the level to perform basic algebra!
Self serving Logic puzzle…or is it?

]]> By: Joe http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-207637 Joe Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:15:54 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-207637 A Walleye Pike is a <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walleye' rel="nofollow">fish</a>. A Walleye Pike is a fish.

]]> By: bhakti http://joemaller.com/556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle/#comment-207492 bhakti Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:28:13 +0000 http://joemaller.com/2005/08/04/post556/whose-fish-logic-puzzle#comment-207492 By the way, the above answer is not a cop-out. I t IS the intended answer. I tis the only logical answer: There is NO way to prove who owned a fish. Again, you would be ASSUMING that since there is no mention of what pet the German owned (through your extensive deduction) that HE must own the fish. But since there is NO mention at all of a fish in the variables of the puzzle itself, you are merely filling in the blank with a "fish". The joke's on you (on all of us who have ever read this puzzle)! Again...this is TOTALLY Einstein all the way. The answer's in the question, except this time it's not! hahaha (I have the IQ to back up this answer. It's so simple...that's the sheer beauty of it!!!) By the way, the above answer is not a cop-out. I t IS the intended answer. I tis the only logical answer: There is NO way to prove who owned a fish.
Again, you would be ASSUMING that since there is no mention of what pet the German owned (through your extensive deduction) that HE must own the fish. But since there is NO mention at all of a fish in the variables of the puzzle itself, you are merely filling in the blank with a “fish”. The joke’s on you (on all of us who have ever read this puzzle)!
Again…this is TOTALLY Einstein all the way. The answer’s in the question, except this time it’s not! hahaha
(I have the IQ to back up this answer. It’s so simple…that’s the sheer beauty of it!!!)

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